Physicists Say They’ve Found The Origin Of Causality


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Take back your personal data with Incogni! Use code Sabine at the link below and get 60% off annual plans: https://incogni.com/sabine Over the years, physicists have become increasingly enamored with “quantum weirdness,” the many strange features of quantum mechanics that are extremely hard to explain. In a new paper, a group of

In this video, Sabine Hossenfelder discusses a recent scientific paper that attempts to tackle one of the most fundamental mysteries in physics: the origin of causality.

The Problem with Causality

Causality—the principle that causes precede effects—is something typically taken for granted in everyday life. However, in the realm of theoretical physics, it presen

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ts a significant hurdle. Physicists have spent nearly a century attempting to reconcile quantum mechanics with gravity to form a "theory of quantum gravity."

The core issue, as Hossenfelder explains, is that such a theory would inherently require superpositions of space-time structures. Because space-time defines causality, a theory of quantum gravity would res

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ult in an indefinite causal structure—a state where it is mathematically difficult to determine whether a cause led to an effect or vice versa [02:21].

A New Approach: Emergent Causality

The authors of the paper discussed argue that causality is not a fundamental property of the universe. Instead, they propose it is an emergent behavior, comparing it to how a l

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iquid is made of particles that are not themselves liquid [01:19].

By approaching the problem from a deeper framework that lacks definite causality, the researchers suggest a way to avoid the traditional difficulties of combining quantum physics and gravity. Their work utilizes a "quantum box" (or Qbox), which represents a quantum event, and explores how these

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events connect without a predetermined causal order [03:06].

Critique and Conclusion

Hossenfelder provides a critical assessment of the research:

The Positive: She notes that the paper successfully derives quantum mechanics from this framework [03:54].

The Limitation: She expresses skepticism regarding some of the paper's assumptions, noting that it relies on a

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concept she refers to as "hyper decoherence" to establish time order [03:26]. She gives the paper a "five out of 10 on the bullshit meter," suggesting it is a step in the right direction but not a finished "theory of everything" [03:48], [04:07].

Hossenfelder concludes by criticizing the tendency of some physicists to promote "quantum woo"—mysterious or unfoun

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ded interpretations of quantum mechanics—rather than focusing on the actual mathematics. She welcomes this new paper for attempting to build a more fundamental, logical theory [04:48].

For more information, you can watch the video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMXq68UeeXU

Physicists Say They’ve Found The Origin Of Causality

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Viewer Discussion & Comments

@miketurner3461
So many channels say in 26 minutes what Sabina says in 6. I love that her videos don't say 20 extra minutes of extra words.
@ianmmccullough
1:04 "The effect just happens and the cause denies involvement" is going to have me chuckling all day.
@dantescalona
Fun fact: the inevidentiality of causation as judicial defense may exasperate your judge…
@LOTUG98
Im starting to think some scientists make shit up so they can continue getting attention
@johnwollenbecker1500
Those saying it’s impossible need to get out of the way of those proving them wrong.
@edwinscheibner7941
Thank you, Sabine.
@carlbrenninkmeijer8925
The secret theory of liquid emergence helps to contradict the fact that I am not in the swimming pool today.
@billscott1601
Q-Box, might as well call it a Mystery Box.
@LuminiferousAether-RGB
Of course, kudos to the group for going against the dogma (and for trying to understand what it all means)... 👍| "More work needs to be done..."
@drrtfm
As I drown I'll remind myself that liquid doesn't exist but is emergent.
@oldsarj
Well, confusion has been my normal state for decades and I'm not even a physicist.😆
@robertjohnsontaylor3187
Something else that sounds improbable. I’ve just been diagnosed with gravitational eczema! Dose this mean I’m allergic to gravity? I’m moving to the moon ASAP.
@Java-Man-x
Life is like a box of q-bits. You never know what you're going to get.
@Stradominous
you can't do science without observing and you can't observe something without causality
@RonLWilson
So then what is the cause of that emergent causality?